Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Military will ensure smooth success to a civilian even if it's Gamal Mubarak


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XXXXXXXXXXXX: MILITARY WILL ENSURE TRANSFER OF POWER REF: 08 CAIRO 2091 Classified By: Economic-Political Minister-Counselor Donald A. Blome for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
1. KEY POINTS -- (S) XXXXXXXXXXXX dismissed public and media speculation about succession. XXXXXXXXXXXX said Egyptian military and security services would ensure a smooth transfer of power, even to a civilian. -- (S) XXXXXXXXXXXX called opposition parties weak and democracy a "long term goal." XXXXXXXXXXXX said that the MB had no legitimate political role, adding that mixing religion and politics in Egypt was not wise and would not be permitted.

2.(S) Comment: XXXXXXXXXXXX is an XXXXXXXXXXXX who has held a number of key positions. His assurances that the Egyptian military and security services would ensure a smooth succession to a civilian (by implication Gamal Mubarak) were unusually straightforward and blunt. The idea that the military remains a key political and economic force is conventional wisdom here. However, other observers tell us that the military has grown less influential, more fractured and its leadership weaker in recent years (reftel). They suggest that in a succession scenario in which President Mubarak is no longer present, outcomes are less predictable. End comment.

3.(S) On XXXXXXXXXXXX, PolOff met with XXXXXXXXXXXX. Without prompting, XXXXXXXXXXXX offered newly-arrived PolOff advice on how to approach political issues in Egypt. XXXXXXXXXXXX counseled PolOff not to "run around" town asking questions about Egypt's next leader, suggesting that most offered only opinions not facts. XXXXXXXXXXXX said that this kind of wide-ranging engagement "by our friends" demonstrated a certain "naivete." XXXXXXXXXXXX suggested that PolOff also steer clear of the many uncorroborated reports and misguided analysis in the local media. XXXXXXXXXXXX also underscored a common XXXXXXXXXXXX refrain that Egypt's opposition political parties were weak and self-serving.

4.(S) XXXXXXXXXXXX's most important message, XXXXXXXXXXXX said was to always keep in mind that "the real center of power in Egypt is the military," a reference XXXXXXXXXXXX said included all security forces. XXXXXXXXXXXX noted that while the military did not intervene directly in matters of day to day governance, it leaders were determined to maintain order and that the importance of a "legal transition" should not be underestimated. XXXXXXXXXXXX did acknowledge that the military is concerned about maintaining its "corporate interests," but was emphatic in his declaration of their commitment to a "constitutional" transition of power. XXXXXXXXXXXX went on to say that the military has "no objection to a civilian" as the next president (a remark that can be interpreted as a pointed reference to Gamal Mubarak). XXXXXXXXXXXX then reiterated that the XXXXXXXXXXXX has not yet selected its candidate for the 2011 presidential elections (a point Gamal Mubarak himself has made to us).

5.(S) XXXXXXXXXXXX acknowledged there would be some violence around the upcoming 2010 parliamentary and 2011 presidential elections, but suggested security forces would be able to keep it under control. Widespread politically-motivated unrest, XXXXXXXXXXXX said, was not likely because it was not part of the "Egyptian mentality." Threats to daily survival, not politics, were the only thing to bring Egyptians to the streets en masse. XXXXXXXXXXXX said the XXXXXXXXXXXX focus on economic reform would continue up to the elections and after any transition of power. XXXXXXXXXXXX added that Egypt was moving towards democracy, but that a transition from a "pharoanic" political system would take a long time.

6.(S) Disdainful of its political import, XXXXXXXXXXXX said the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) was not a credible political organization. As evidence of their pure self-interest, XXXXXXXXXXXX cited the MB's refusal to "integrate" and become a part of the mainstream political process despite invitations from the last three Egyptian presidents. XXXXXXXXXXXX referred to recent arrests of MB members (septel) as evidence they operated extra-legally. XXXXXXXXXXXX warned that because Egyptians are very religious people, politics and religion is a volatile mix. In a more strident tone, XXXXXXXXXXXX went on to say that XXXXXXXXXXXX, and President Mubarak, "would not tolerate" the existence of CAIRO 00001468 002 OF 002 political parties with a religious agenda whether Muslim or Christian and suggested that there was no such thing as a "moderate Islamist." Tueller
Source: 09Cairo1468

9 comments:

  1. SOS RT ANONYMOUS - WIKILEAK POLITICS KILLING PEOPLE - AYUDA WIKILEAKS GENTE MURIENDO.

    POLITICS AND MONSANTO SELLING DRUGS - POLITICOS Y MONSANTO VENDIENDO DROGAS CON TECNOLOGIAS INVASIVAS.

    DEVELOPE PROJECT NANO TECHNOLOGY IN DRUGS VENEZUELA CENTRAL UNIVERSITY AND IVIC.

    FISICA CUANTICA ELECTRO DINAMICA DESTRUCCION MOLECULAR EN LAS PAREDES CELULARES DE NEURONAS.

    PROYECTO DE INVESTIGACION NANO TECNOLOGIA EN MEDICAMENTOS VENEZUELA UNIVERSIDAD CENTRAL DE VENEZUELA Y EL IVIC.


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  2. SOS RT ANONYMOUS - WIKILEAK POLITICS KILLING PEOPLE - AYUDA WIKILEAKS GENTE MURIENDO.

    POLITICS AND MONSANTO SELLING DRUGS - POLITICOS Y MONSANTO VENDIENDO DROGAS CON TECNOLOGIAS INVASIVAS.

    DEVELOPE PROJECT NANO TECHNOLOGY IN DRUGS VENEZUELA CENTRAL UNIVERSITY AND IVIC.

    FISICA CUANTICA ELECTRO DINAMICA DESTRUCCION MOLECULAR EN LAS PAREDES CELULARES DE NEURONAS.

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  3. SOS RT ANONYMOUS - WIKILEAK POLITICS KILLING PEOPLE - AYUDA WIKILEAKS GENTE MURIENDO.

    POLITICS AND MONSANTO SELLING DRUGS - POLITICOS Y MONSANTO VENDIENDO DROGAS CON TECNOLOGIAS INVASIVAS.

    DEVELOPE PROJECT NANO TECHNOLOGY IN DRUGS VENEZUELA CENTRAL UNIVERSITY AND IVIC.

    FISICA CUANTICA ELECTRO DINAMICA DESTRUCCION MOLECULAR EN LAS PAREDES CELULARES DE NEURONAS.

    PROYECTO DE INVESTIGACION NANO TECNOLOGIA EN MEDICAMENTOS VENEZUELA UNIVERSIDAD CENTRAL DE VENEZUELA Y EL IVIC.


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  4. SOS RT ANONYMOUS - WIKILEAK POLITICS KILLING PEOPLE - AYUDA WIKILEAKS GENTE MURIENDO.

    POLITICS AND MONSANTO SELLING DRUGS - POLITICOS Y MONSANTO VENDIENDO DROGAS CON TECNOLOGIAS INVASIVAS.

    DEVELOPE PROJECT NANO TECHNOLOGY IN DRUGS VENEZUELA CENTRAL UNIVERSITY AND IVIC.

    FISICA CUANTICA ELECTRO DINAMICA DESTRUCCION MOLECULAR EN LAS PAREDES CELULARES DE NEURONAS.

    PROYECTO DE INVESTIGACION NANO TECNOLOGIA EN MEDICAMENTOS VENEZUELA UNIVERSIDAD CENTRAL DE VENEZUELA Y EL IVIC.


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    EXIGIMOS A POLÍTICOS NORTE AMERICANOS EUROPEOS ASIÁTICOS LATINO AMERICANOS, INTERROGATORIO FORMAL EN MEDIOS DE COMUNICACIÓN POR ESTUDIOS DE LA RAZA HUMANA.

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    1. MAXINE LINDE
    2. STAN JONES
    3. DONALD BACKER
    4. PETER MCNULTY
    5. CHARLES MOSS DUKE JR
    6. NERIDA ELLERTON
    7. KEN CLEMENTS
    8. JAY GROVES
    9. A. PAUL ALIVISATOS
    10. JOHN ARNOLD
    11. NEIL BARTLETT
    12. JAY KEASLING
    13. ROBERT C. DYNES
    14. JOHN CLARKE
    15. STEVEN CHU
    PROYECTO GENOCIDIO DE INVESTIGACIÓN NEUROLOGÍA TECNOLOGÍAS INVASIVAS Y PROGRAMACIÓN HUMANA.
    INVESTIGACIONES A REALIZARSE EN LOS CENTROS DE MICROSCOPIA DE FUERZA ATÓMICA DEL IVIC, UCV, IDEA, VENEZUELA.

    PROFESORES LLAMEN A CNN LUEGO A CAPRILES RADONSKI, PRIMERO JUSTICIA, AD-OPOSICIÓN (PRIN), PARTIDO COMUNISTA DE VENEZUELA, PATRIA PARA TODOS, VAMOS (POLO DEMOCRÁTICO), PARTIDO SOCIALISTA UNIDO DE VENEZUELA, VOLUNTAD POPULAR, (COPEI, PROYECTO VENEZUELA, PRIMERO JUSTICIA).

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    VIOLATIONS BY USE OF NANOTECHNOLOGY IN MEDICINE .

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    COMPLAINTS .

    1. MAXINE LINDE
    2. STAN JONES
    3. DONALD BACKER
    4. PETER MCNULTY
    5. CHARLES DUKE JR MOSS
    6. NERIDA ELLERTON
    7. KEN CLEMENTS
    8. GROVES JAY
    9. A. PAUL ALIVISATOS
    10. JOHN ARNOLD
    11. NEIL BARTLETT
    12. JAY KEASLING
    13 . ROBERT C. DYNES
    14 . JOHN CLARKE
    15 . STEVEN CHU
    NEUROLOGY RESEARCH PROJECT GENOCIDE AND HUMAN PROGRAMMING INVASIVE TECHNOLOGIES .
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  9. SOLICITUD A CNN REUNION CON LOS VENEZOLANOS.

    Conclusiones finales sobre investigaciones de proyecto genocidio: con respecto a procedimientos legales internacionales, como condición para lograr ganar derechos ante procesos legales demócratas o no demócratas.
    Realizadas investigaciones, demandas, reclamos, protestas en estados que utilizan tecnologías para actividades criminales.
    Según los juicios internacionales procesados en las naciones unidas la corte de la haya y tribunales norte americanos en casos de países con procesos políticos complejos en los que existen tecnologías de programación y tecnologías invasivas.
    Algunos fiscales en estos tribunales aconsejan a la población que se sienta afectada o victima de estos crímenes extremos como los que observamos en el caso de Hugo Chavez Nicolas Maduro y otros de latino América, se aconseja redactar.
    Los siguientes documentos que pudiesen ser presentados a revisión y procesamiento, en tribunales internacionales.
    Antes de utilizar los métodos de reclamo a través de redes o plataformas como Internet.
    De las opciones que existen mostramos las más aconsejadas.
    Son ciento por ciento efectivas pero tienen que se masivas y presentadas a medios de comunicacional de manera constante.
    Cartas que expresen la situación socio política pidiendo ayuda pública.
    Denuncias por genocidios y/o asesinatos públicos con usos tecnológicos satelitales, para la redacción se utilizan leyes que son utilizadas en la onu.
    Peticiones de renuncia a políticos.
    Todas estas opciones con listas de firmas y con el debido sustento.
    Les solicitamos a los venezolanos y medios de comunicación se pongan en contactos para la redacción de estos documentos que deben ser presentados en público de manera que se conozcan las tecnologías el proceso se acelera de décadas a meses o días.
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    Urgente cnn.
    Hemos querido subir varias informaciones sobre la investigación pero la página aun sigue hakeada y bloqueada.
    Referida a las solicitudes tratando que la sociedad no se estanque en protestas interminables.

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